Comments on: All-In Illuminator Period 3 http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/2009/04/16/all-in-illuminator-period-3-3/ Shanks for Bloggin! Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:46:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: tale_of_2_cities http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/2009/04/16/all-in-illuminator-period-3-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1098 tale_of_2_cities Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:29:42 +0000 http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/?p=915#comment-1098 Alex, why would Pete have Jimbo say this, "Every gambler's got a story. A story that sums up who they really are, and how they been running. Some stories are better than others. Denn Doyle has a pretty good one. I wonder if he’s telling it now, wherever he is." On 177 ? I get what you are saying, Leah, but to me it cam across as Pete telling us that Denn did win the tournament. -Rebecca Alex, why would Pete have Jimbo say this, “Every gambler’s got a story. A story that sums up who they really are, and how they been running. Some stories are better than others. Denn Doyle has a pretty good one. I wonder if he’s telling it now, wherever he is.” On 177 ?
I get what you are saying, Leah, but to me it cam across as Pete telling us that Denn did win the tournament.
-Rebecca

]]> By: tale_of_2_cities http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/2009/04/16/all-in-illuminator-period-3-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1088 tale_of_2_cities Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:09:46 +0000 http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/?p=915#comment-1088 The ending did not really make much sense to me, but we have to realize that Pete wants us to use our imagination. Come up with your own ending and whatever suits you suits you. She did this because she wanted to get back at him. She played a straight up game, and then even messed with Artie. Also I disagree with your thoughts on his poker skills. There was no cheating and even Denn knew this. Artie rounded up them chips because he played smart. He has skills, but Denn is better. I do realize though that he may have gotten some chips because of cheating but it mostly was a fair tournament. Vegas is not like this, and we need to see that there was not much cheating in this tournament. Denn won and I like the ending. I got to pick my own ending to satisfy myself. SO many times the author ends the story and people say they do not like it. Now he lets the audience decide which is great. Rebecca, we can't assume he won. There is not enough information. -Alex The ending did not really make much sense to me, but we have to realize that Pete wants us to use our imagination. Come up with your own ending and whatever suits you suits you.
She did this because she wanted to get back at him. She played a straight up game, and then even messed with Artie. Also I disagree with your thoughts on his poker skills. There was no cheating and even Denn knew this. Artie rounded up them chips because he played smart. He has skills, but Denn is better. I do realize though that he may have gotten some chips because of cheating but it mostly was a fair tournament. Vegas is not like this, and we need to see that there was not much cheating in this tournament.
Denn won and I like the ending. I got to pick my own ending to satisfy myself. SO many times the author ends the story and people say they do not like it. Now he lets the audience decide which is great.
Rebecca, we can’t assume he won. There is not enough information.
-Alex

]]> By: tale_of_2_cities http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/2009/04/16/all-in-illuminator-period-3-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 tale_of_2_cities Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:49:35 +0000 http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/?p=915#comment-1072 I totally disagree with you, Rebecca. Yes, Jimbo says that, asking, “Did you ever hear a bad-beat story?” And so far, every time the author had written of a “bad-beat story”, the main character had always lost. We never got enough information to know if he actually won or not. Also, I HATED the ending. It bothers me so much that we did not find out who won. I do think it is ridiculous to come as far as to steal everything someone has, just to get them back. Also agreeing with Rebecca, I think Cattie hates Artie and likes Denn. Even though Cattie helped Artie cheat once, and she also helped a tiny bit in the big tournament, she finally gave up and started to deal him either bad cards, or cards that the others could realize they were cheating. When Cattie dealt for Denn, she was supposed to give him bad cards. Instead, she gave him half decent cards, and other hands that he could win small pots with. To answer your other question, can you win poker by just having money, no you can’t. You don’t have to be rich; you just get lucky and win money, making you rich. Yes, you do need some skill to win big games, but you certainly don’t have to be rich. I sort of answered your last question in one of the first questions. I definitely did not like the ending of this story. I would have much better liked to see how the author would have made the rest of the story out to be. To answer your question, Rebecca, Jimbo obviously said that because his (meaning Denn’s) whole poker-life is a bad-beat story. What Jimbo said did not give any clue as to the outcome of the tournament. -Leah Sevco I totally disagree with you, Rebecca. Yes, Jimbo says that, asking, “Did you ever hear a bad-beat story?” And so far, every time the author had written of a “bad-beat story”, the main character had always lost. We never got enough information to know if he actually won or not.
Also, I HATED the ending. It bothers me so much that we did not find out who won.

I do think it is ridiculous to come as far as to steal everything someone has, just to get them back. Also agreeing with Rebecca, I think Cattie hates Artie and likes Denn. Even though Cattie helped Artie cheat once, and she also helped a tiny bit in the big tournament, she finally gave up and started to deal him either bad cards, or cards that the others could realize they were cheating. When Cattie dealt for Denn, she was supposed to give him bad cards. Instead, she gave him half decent cards, and other hands that he could win small pots with.
To answer your other question, can you win poker by just having money, no you can’t. You don’t have to be rich; you just get lucky and win money, making you rich. Yes, you do need some skill to win big games, but you certainly don’t have to be rich.

I sort of answered your last question in one of the first questions. I definitely did not like the ending of this story. I would have much better liked to see how the author would have made the rest of the story out to be.

To answer your question, Rebecca, Jimbo obviously said that because his (meaning Denn’s) whole poker-life is a bad-beat story. What Jimbo said did not give any clue as to the outcome of the tournament.

-Leah Sevco

]]> By: tale_of_2_cities http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/2009/04/16/all-in-illuminator-period-3-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 tale_of_2_cities Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:10:51 +0000 http://journaling.clsd.net/mr_shank/?p=915#comment-1062 DENN WON!! On page 177 Jimbo says "Every gambler's got a story...Denn Doyle has a pretty good one. I wonder if he is telling it, wherever he is." I am guessing Denn one that poker match, Julian, I am pretty sure he did. To answer your first question she HATE Artie & LIKES Denn it isn't one or the other it is both! Artie is good a poker because when Cattie goes back last time to deal at his table his stack had increased by a large amount. He is doing just fine without Cattie dealing, he just wanted a little extra boost. Artie didn't win because he had money, he didn't win, and poker doesn't work like that. First of all Artie had $1,199,000 and Denn only had $1,000. I don't think 999,000 chips are equal to $1,199,000. It was a cliff hanger ending but why would have Jimbo said that about Denn on page 177? -Rebecca Krick DENN WON!! On page 177 Jimbo says “Every gambler’s got a story…Denn Doyle has a pretty good one. I wonder if he is telling it, wherever he is.” I am guessing Denn one that poker match, Julian, I am pretty sure he did.

To answer your first question she HATE Artie & LIKES Denn it isn’t one or the other it is both! Artie is good a poker because when Cattie goes back last time to deal at his table his stack had increased by a large amount. He is doing just fine without Cattie dealing, he just wanted a little extra boost. Artie didn’t win because he had money, he didn’t win, and poker doesn’t work like that.

First of all Artie had $1,199,000 and Denn only had $1,000. I don’t think 999,000 chips are equal to $1,199,000. It was a cliff hanger ending but why would have Jimbo said that about Denn on page 177?
-Rebecca Krick

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